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Post by Mattocaster on Sept 19, 2006 18:44:24 GMT -5
I know that with Proboards we're not allowed to talk in another language that isn't English. We're also not allowed to talk about politics, religion, racism and other issues. This takes away part of our freedom of speech. Would it not be better if OHG was run by vBulletin? www.vbulletin.com/You can talk in any language and talk about anything you like without worrying about getting shutdown. I'm not saying to change to vBulletin, I'm just saying. |
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Post by sierra on Sept 19, 2006 18:48:20 GMT -5
Not for me...English is the only language I'm not embarrassed to speak, and boards that allow religious/political topics often overrun by them.
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Post by xjadax on Sept 19, 2006 18:50:53 GMT -5
It's a good idea but the there are so many arguments on here just about simple things like Anthony's girlfriends and New fans, other bands and such, imagine how many arguments would come out of religious and political issues, it would consume the messageboard.  |
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Post by sierra on Sept 19, 2006 18:51:20 GMT -5
It's a good idea but the there are so many arguments on here just about simple things likeAnthony's girlfriends and New fans, other bands and such, imagine how many arguments would come out of religious and political issues, it would consume the non related board. Exactly |
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Post by Mattocaster on Sept 19, 2006 19:05:37 GMT -5
Not for me...English is the only language I'm not embarrassed to speak, Well you know that here we have an AK, Promotion, Music, Films, TOTP, ect boards? Well on the vBulletin messageboard we can have an 'International' board where people can speak to eachother in whatever language. As long they speak English in the other boards.  Even English speaking people can use the 'International' board to see if they're not the only person from New Zealand for example.  I've seen this done on other messageboards and it works no problem. Again, we can have one board that's devoted to world issues/social issues. If you don't want to talk about certain issues then you don't have to. |
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Post by Mattocaster on Sept 19, 2006 19:28:31 GMT -5
It's a good idea but the there are so many arguments on here just about simple things like Anthony's girlfriends and New fans, other bands and such, I think you'll find that on most boards though. But alot of these arguements get turned to be insulting one another. It could of been improved along time ago but it hasn't IMO. To me, I think that's down to poor moderation. I wont get on here on how it's poor but I'll save that for a new thread. Of course they'll be arguements about this sort of stuff, you can't expect it to be all happy clappy and everyone to be all *passes the cookies* can you? People can argue about such issues as long as it's talked about in a debating, grown-up manner, without being discriminitive and insulting with full intent to upset. |
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Post by NobodyWeirdLikeMe on Sept 20, 2006 10:53:22 GMT -5
with some of the people on this board grown up arguments aren't their style.
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Post by Mattocaster on Sept 20, 2006 10:58:30 GMT -5
with some of the people on this board grown up arguments aren't their style. I meant 'grown-up' as in not insulting one another. |
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Post by NobodyWeirdLikeMe on Sept 20, 2006 11:06:01 GMT -5
thats what i meant too |
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Post by Mattocaster on Sept 20, 2006 11:16:07 GMT -5
Then they don't have to take part.
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Post by xjadax on Sept 20, 2006 11:49:17 GMT -5
Unfortunately they probably would. |
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Post by NobodyWeirdLikeMe on Sept 20, 2006 15:10:50 GMT -5
;D hahah they probably would yes ;D
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Post by Yertle_The_Turtle on Sept 21, 2006 0:42:07 GMT -5
Sarah - this is a good idea, but in my eyes, as someone that has used both versions of board software rather extensively, I find that ProBoards is the far superior service.
Yes, there is the issue on postings of other languages, I understand, but also, the entire onehotglobe.org website is set in English, so why would the forum be any different??
Also, English is the main lingua franca of society these days, and a majority of the world's population know it. It probably makes sense to appeal to the masses rather than the minorities. (Non-English speakers - this is not a dysphymistic comment. I am in no way undermining the value of other languages, merely stating fact)
The interface of ProBoards is much more user friendly than any other board hosting software that I have encountered. I find it's ease of use and multitude of features a massive plus against its competitors.
I'm sure there are fansites out there in other languages, in fact, having used to have run a fansite, I am aware that there are fansites out there written in only one language, which is non-English. Perhaps these fansites can adapt themselves with a forum to accomodate their users.
Again, I hope I have not offended anyone as I never intended to. Onehotglobe is an English-speaking website, and so is its accompanying forum.
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Post by Sunborn on Sept 22, 2006 13:51:42 GMT -5
Ok, Josh has stated the reasons, for not having a multi-lingual community, very well. As for proboards. I too have used a number of forum software and find that proboards is one of the easiest to handle. Not perfect, but with the latest additions after the upgrade, we have a lot of functions available and a good structure for maintaining and monitoring the whole board.
The religion and politics ban... (I'm very keen on such discussions as well but).. that kind of controvesial issues might steer conflict in an unproductive and inefficient way for mature and useful dialogue between the members. I guess this subject will come up again in the near future but I'm afraid we will still say the same thing. No to all of them. Just for the record, we had some serious problem involving a couple of our members in the past (some of you might remember) about nationality, race and politics which turned out very bad. I for one would like to avoid that from happening again.
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Post by Yertle_The_Turtle on Sept 23, 2006 22:52:21 GMT -5
There's a private place you can talk about such things, it's called Instant Messaging (MSN, AOL, etc). Maybe people interested can swap e-mail addresses and talk about it on there, or start their own forum where they allow such views to be discussed, and then realise just what a bitch it is keeping harmony amongst the members when that sort of stuff is allowed.
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Post by readymade on Sept 24, 2006 15:27:53 GMT -5
I think it would be a good idea for OHG to move away from relying on a free forum hosting service, especially when you consider the limited control available to the administrators, factor this in with the scale of the community too. The only way for OHG's forum to evolve and continue to grow is to move away from proboards.
vBulletin is by far the most superior messageboard scripting available. Proboards doesnt even come close. In every aspect, vBulletin is unmatched by any other currently available. It may not be free, but the license fee is more than worth it, and will pay for itself in the long term.
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Post by Yertle_The_Turtle on Sept 25, 2006 1:28:06 GMT -5
Unfortunately, as I quite often chat to Ken, he is struggling enough to meet the website's hosting fee bill. So a paid service is not an option.
Plus, I'm pretty sure most of the members here would not want to lose the content and threads we already have by moving to a new service.
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Post by Angel on Sept 25, 2006 8:58:35 GMT -5
Unfortunately, as I quite often chat to Ken, he is struggling enough to meet the website's hosting fee bill. So a paid service is not an option.
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Post by Yertle_The_Turtle on Sept 25, 2006 9:06:34 GMT -5
Unfortunately, as I quite often chat to Ken, he is struggling enough to meet the website's hosting fee bill. So a paid service is not an option.
Is it really expensive? |
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Post by readymade on Sept 25, 2006 11:33:01 GMT -5
Doesnt proboards allow database transfer, or even allow the release of your database for a fee?!?! If not thats a real shame. Paid services are not the only option, the likes of invision power board and phpbb are very respectable free alternatives to vBulletin.
I wouldnt have thought the bandwidth on here is that excessive. Theres no hosted files which would eat up a shed load of bandwidth in one session for a start. Reliable hosting services arent that expensive these days, he could introduce some advertising schemes into the site like adsense, which will easily cover his hosting bills for the year. Even if he had to go as far as setting up a feature for donations, i'm pretty sure the loyal members on here would be willing to give a little in order to help this place carry itself.
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